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    I want a rollercoaster in The Millionare Building!

    or maybe a very nice Dark Ride
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    Hey simba, i really enjoyed your read!

    And you make a very good point that i hadn't visited. This ride that they are building is a family attraction, and when i compared it to other attractions around, they all have a character-based storyline. So it's not really all that surprising that Toy Story was pulled into this design. And you're right, the toys do mirror the midway games pretty well.
    But i think its my own selfishness that tells me to keep the Disney out of a Disney park, haha. When DCA opened, it was a park that had little-to-no character influence involved. Its kindof what draws me to it. I enjoy sitting in a park Disney built without being in a Disney park (you know what i mean?). However, thats just personal bias getting in the way of reason.
    If DCA is to become the park it was built to be, the family aspect can't be forgotten - and one of the ways to do it is through character-based storylines. I'll never really embrace them (maybe when i have kids someday) - but they're not going to go away, so i might as well accept em and enjoy em.

    Oh and ismael - i had no idea there were attractions in the works for those films. thanks for clarifying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    I dont see the problem themeing to pixar either. Its just....EVERY RIDE DISNEY IS BUILDING/PLANNING or already built!!!!!!!! IS PIXAR!

    They act like its HARD to create somthing new.
    It is hard. It's even harder to create an unique attraction that people aren't going to trash because they have no emotional connection to the theme or content.

    The world of attractions has changed significantly since the days of POTC and other parks are producing rides as advanced as anything Disney has. I just don't think Disney can make new WOW attractions with new technology as easily as they did in the past. People are so jaded now about technology.

    So Disney has story. That's their competitive edge. That's their technology that sets their attractions apart. It's what connects people to the attraction to guarantee a return on the investment.

    Yes it is hard. It's even harder when you lack leadership at the top. Hopefully Jobs and Co. will change the myopic leadership style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simba View Post
    So... like.... what though? I mean, just theme it to... nothing? Just have a "Carnival game Mania" ride? What's the difference in adding the Toy Story characters to it? It's just an "overlay" for an unthemed attraction. I just don't see the harm - it can only serve to make the attraction signficantly more popular.
    Quote Originally Posted by sweeper View Post
    It is hard. It's even harder to create an unique attraction that people aren't going to trash because they have no emotional connection to the theme or content.
    I've said this once and ill say it again. A good theme that this ride could be is somthing similar to TDS's TOT (storywise), where the theme is your are invited to a fun-house ran by an eccentric barker, and in it the games would be off the wall, add more elaborate vehicles that move and jerk around like INDY or Spiderman and have NEW charecters jumping from screen to screen and the vehicles spinning and rocking and moving up and down and creating an over elaborate FUN-HOUSE, the themeing could be a sort of tooned up mad house carnival inside. Thats just one of my ideas on what disney could have done. It would have been an E-ticket easy and take up the same space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    I've said this once and ill say it again. A good theme that this ride could be is somthing similar to TDS's TOT (storywise), where the theme is your are invited to a fun-house ran by an eccentric barker, and in it the games would be off the wall, add more elaborate vehicles that move and jerk around like INDY or Spiderman and have NEW charecters jumping from screen to screen and the vehicles spinning and rocking and moving up and down and creating an over elaborate FUN-HOUSE, the themeing could be a sort of tooned up mad house carnival inside. Thats just one of my ideas on what disney could have done. It would have been an E-ticket easy and take up the same space.
    And as I said, just so Disney could just play catch up with Universal? I don't think Disney is in that kind of arms race anymore. Test Track and Rocket Rods hit Disney hard and from what I understand, Burbank isn't in love with Imagineering's misadventures and cost overruns. Better they create a "safe" attraction tied to something popular already. I think that's reality. Now if you want to mourn this reality, I understand completely. But the problem isn't the movie tie-ins. It's the culture of Disney as a publicly traded company. DCA's construction was all about playing it safe financially without movie tie-ins. So now we are getting movie rides and maybe with new leadership, new attractions. But nothing proposed seems very daring or grand like POTC or HM.
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    We dont know that.

    I bet you things are proposed like that all the time. But just shot down by disney execs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    I've said this once and ill say it again. A good theme that this ride could be is somthing similar to TDS's TOT (storywise), where the theme is your are invited to a fun-house ran by an eccentric barker, and in it the games would be off the wall, add more elaborate vehicles that move and jerk around like INDY or Spiderman and have NEW charecters jumping from screen to screen and the vehicles spinning and rocking and moving up and down and creating an over elaborate FUN-HOUSE, the themeing could be a sort of tooned up mad house carnival inside. Thats just one of my ideas on what disney could have done. It would have been an E-ticket easy and take up the same space.

    Thrill attractions like TOT aren't usually tied to characters because they cater to an older audience. New themes and ideas are cool, but Most people don't understand them. Think of Indy, if it was just "Temple of the Forbidden Eye", alot of pople wouldn't understand the storyline. Kids and families alike need characters and such from their favorite Disney movies to relate to.
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    I find that hard to beleive. Do people get confused on HM? Do......did people get confused on pirates? Did people get confused on the old Submarine Voyage? Nope......... The name Indiana Jones could have easily been worked around and people would have still ridden it massivly like they do.
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    I say we can "bash" about Pixar attractions and WDI "losing" there focus after the attraction opens.

    NO one knows how well this ride will do reguard less if Pixar characters are inside or not. The fact is that this attraction is well on its way in w/ Toy Story on board and will be a very welcome addition to DCA roster of attactions and will also add what DCA was missing at its opening. What was it "Disney", Pixar is now Disney and will stay Disney. The very last thing DCA would need is a brand new attraction that fails like Super Star Limo or Rocket Rods.

    Im done ranting now

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    I find that hard to beleive. Do people get confused on HM? Do......did people get confused on pirates? Did people get confused on the old Submarine Voyage? Nope......... The name Indiana Jones could have easily been worked around and people would have still ridden it massivly like they do.
    HM is a spook house. People naturally like to be scared. And yes people are confused on it. These very boards are a testament to their confusion with the constant Master Gracie story which either is or is not the real story...and now the bride is an hatchet murderer? And the ride has great AA's and music that make it repeatable. But the storyline is not clear.

    POTC is obviously a feast for the eyes and ears and I think the crowning achievement of it's era. An era long gone apparently. The story it tells is chronological because Walt wanted to tell a story. He did it so well it became a movie.

    Submarines weren't confusing but many of use felt there was an implicit connection to 20,000 Leagues. Obviously WDW's was explicitly connected to 20,000 Leagues.

    Indiana Jones would not have existed without the movies. It took the creative talent from outside Disney to provide the story and inspiration. And then the marketing captured all of our attention because we loved the movies. It's not that it wouldn't have been fun without the movie tie-in, but I think it owes it's existance to the movies. The boulder scene alone.

    What's the story behind BTMR? A casual guest has no clue. Oh a roller coaster mine train thing. It's a roller coaster! That is the draw. The theme keeps it interesting and repeatable. The thrill sells it. The thrill sells all of the coasters and TOT for that matter.

    Instead of inventing ridiculous back stories that only Disney Geeks get, they are now using movies to help tell the story and connect everyone. Makes sense to me.
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