yes but it DOES have to fit itself inside a very limiting slice of land. Monsters Inc was just a track overlay though one might call into question weather every inch was put into 100% usage.
Looking at the new Blue Sky Cellar concepts for everything the ride DOES look encouraging. If everything remains mostly animatronic with moving mouths anyways. The pictures seem to indicate the under the Sea scene will be decently busy which should add alot for the ride.
The comparison to Nemo now that I'm thinking about it is a hopefull one too as the set pieces for that ride were VERY well put together so if you can combine that kind of set detail with some REAL animatronics it'll be a winner.
Monsters inc has really left me skeptical I suppose I'm just always waiting for the other foot to drop with ride details :P. I always wish they'd go back and just replace the figures with more animatronics at least Roz level in that ride...
Anywho Mermaid looks a bit squeezed in but every scene will be put to great use so I'm happierhopefully it lasts a decent length
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06-12-2010 10:13 AM #1212
Hopefully, Mermaid will be on par with Mansion. The smaller intimate scenes work well because you are supposed to be in a house. Will small scenes work well here? They will at least provide some variety.
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Looking at the model and blueprints today, I have a couple of issues with the design of this ride.
1. The placement of the "Under The Sea" scene at the halfway point of the ride. It's obvious that this is going to be the big showstopper of the ride. It's a big round room with lots of stuff going on and it looks like it's gonna be really cool. But it's at the halfway point of the ride. Will the finale happen before the ride is over? When you look at the classic attractions, the big spectacular room is towards the end. the graveyard at the Haunted Mansion, the burning village on Pirates, the white room of "it's a small world." For pacing sake I hope that there are some cool things in the smaller rooms towards the end of the ride.
2. The transition from the Kiss the Girl scene to Love's First Kiss to the Happily Ever After room seems awfully fast. It seems like we are going to go from Hey look, romance to oh no sea witch to ok everything's great now in about 30 seconds. Could this be another random feeling ending like Snow White?So there.
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06-13-2010 07:21 AM #1215
"Animated" may mean they rock back and forth and that's it. I'm still guessing we are getting something between Monsters and Mansion with a limited audience appeal. But at least boys will have Carsland.
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06-15-2010 11:49 PM #1216
Some Thoughts...
Wallyboag: the story will be moving a fast pace, but i feel it will still work for the ride. From dlfreak's video of the "what's next" it had a piece of scuttle narrating, but getting things a little mixed up. This could be huge for the ride as well as its success! I can't think of any ride that has a reoccurring narrator throughout the ride (omitting the raven in HM) The pace will be fast, but instead of the music being a backdrop for the story, it will be reversed. kind of like pirates... They're dead, then alive, partying, partying even harder, and then burn everything... pretty fast, but the music is consistent and ties it together, just food for thought...
Sweeper: it looks like the "animated animatronics" are going to move minimally on an individual level, but all together, it will be a crazy array of music and movement. if you think about it, HM, IASW, etc. those rides have major scenes with a lot going on, but if you break it down... it's a few ghouls popping up from behind a tombstone in front of you or creepy children, blinking and swaying... lol!
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The ride is supposedly 4-5 minute long. I'll use 4.5 minutes for this discussion.
There is approx. 108 vehicles, thus approx. 4.5 minutes / 108 = 2.5 seconds per vehicle. When you look at the scenes, you see Scene 4 Ariels Grotto might last approx. 15 seconds, while the big scene 5 under the sea runs about 50 seconds. The last three scenes run 15 - 20 seconds each for a total of 50-60 seconds, which gives you a very lengthy ending.

Each of these scenes are easily long enough to make a good attraction, but its the transitions between each scene scene that could put it over the top. Scene 3 the descent looks great on video as it actually makes you feel you are going under the water. If the rest are just a good, this should be a solid "D" ticket dark ride (Pirates and Mansion being "E" tickets).
It should also eat a lot of people. At 2 people per vehicle, that gives you 216 people per 4.5 minutes giving you 2800 per hour. Obviously the ride could end up short or longer, with more or less vehicles shown in the photos and exhibits changing all these numbers, but its a good place to start.
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06-16-2010 01:06 PM #1218
Good analysis, but... I have seen good analyses about the supposed length of this ride on MI and LP, but they are all based on 108 vehicles. If there are really 108 vehicles on the track AS BUILT, then great. However, if the purpose of having vehicles in the schematics is not for vehicle accuracy but merely to show the range of motion of the vehicles, then all these analyses go out the window.
The spacing of the vehicles on the diagram are irregular, making me believe that the drawings of the vehicles are merely to show range of motion and that there will not really be 108 vehicles on the track as built. I hope I am wrong about this.
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You are correct as I noted in my last paragraph that things could change.
One thing to notice is that the models match the schematics; plus they took the above schematic and placed it directly into the plot of land they are using in another schematic.
Yes, we could end up with 90 vehicles, that just means all the numbers would be approx. 15% less (which puts it at the 4 minute estimate, which is 1.5 minutes longer the Peter Pan). Unless of course they speed them up or slow them down.
Thankfully there is a max speed they can run them at to get people loaded safely, which would be close to HM and goes at approx. 2.5 seconds per load.
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. The pictures seem to indicate the under the Sea scene will be decently busy which should add alot for the ride.
hopefully it lasts a decent length 




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