Buena Vista Street (2012)

[Pinocchio85]

I'd love for them to keep the letters as they are a very popular photo spot.

As for the murals, I don't understand why they don't belong in a Disney park. There's no rulebook on what does or doesn't belong in a Disney park. Disney parks were supposed to be different and break the mold so I applaud them for trying something different. Overall BVS seems nice, but much more like Main Street and therefore more traditional and safe. Perhaps it will be more inspiring in person.

I still like my idea of a San Francisco entrance especially since the city will probably never be fully represented in the park.

[Jspider]

I'd love for them to keep the letters as they are a very popular photo spot.

As for the murals, I don't understand why they don't belong in a Disney park. There's no rulebook on what does or doesn't belong in a Disney park. Disney parks were supposed to be different and break the mold so I applaud them for trying something different. Overall BVS seems nice, but much more like Main Street and therefore more traditional and safe. Perhaps it will be more inspiring in person.

I still like my idea of a San Francisco entrance especially since the city will probably never be fully represented in the park.

I think of the letters as DCA's equivilent to the Mickey floral and I'm not sure what will take their place with the current design.


I do like the idea that all Disney parks should have unique entrance ways. However there also is the need for the DCA entrance and the Disneyland entrance to be complimentary since they both share the same plaza.

The post card idea was cheesy and never seemed to really fit together, the bridge doesn't look like it's popping out of the murals it just looks oddly placed between them. It's all a bit to colorful and out there compared to the Disneyland entrance too so I think it's fair to try something else.

a mainstreet like area that represents a bussier city in a slightly different period seems to be the right way to go with the Red Car complimenting the train and whatnot.

I'd definitly be for keeping the letters and avoiding the Pan Pacific entrance though

[Skaterfreakboi2]

I like what's there now

Finally, someone who is generally satisfied with things, vs complaining about the park and demanding it be torn down or other asinine comments.

(Generally joking of course)

There's no rulebook on what does or doesn't belong in a Disney park

Thank you. Seriously, I always wondered what elite book nerds decided to pull that from. When it comes down to it, Disney fans are spoiled, and when they don't get their way, they write something off as tacky claiming it doesn't belong. It gets old fast.

[MoonRakerSCM]

Well, I doubt that discussing how exposed ride mechanics and bland corrigated steel being visible not being up to Disney standards is asinine.

How can the obnoxious entrance to DCA not be tacky? By its definition it's tacky. Heck, if Disney fans are spoiled, then why is Disney actually realizing their problem and now fixing it???

If it were just us 'elite book nerds' complaining then Disney wouldn't be spending 1 billion dollars to recognize and fix the problem....

[Skaterfreakboi2]

Well, I doubt that discussing how exposed ride mechanics and bland corrigated steel being visible not being up to Disney standards is asinine.

Because in my honest opinion, what Disney does for us is great, we all know that. But really, nobody has any say in what "Disney Standards" are except the company themselves. We're lucky we get what we get. They don't owe anyone anything. If you say they do, that proves my point.

Heck, if Disney fans are spoiled, then why is Disney actually realizing their problem and now fixing it???

Because people simply wouldn't shut up about it.

When I visit DCA or any Disney resort for that matter, I don't focus on chipping paint, or exposed ride mechanics or what needs to be ripped out because its "ugly"... I go, and have a great time. To me its stupid to worry about those things, and yes. I continue to believe the Disney fan community is spoiled.

I could think of things in my HONEST opinion, that to me were worse than DCA After my Florida trip in 08. I know I'd be a minority opinion, so there's no sense in naming them. While I had a great time in Florida, I was underwhelmed and not very impressed by the supposed "better" resort.

[MoonRakerSCM]

But really, nobody has any say in what "Disney Standards" are except the company themselves.

Because people simply wouldn't shut up about it.

So which is it then? Does Disney determine Disney standards, or do the fans? You say only Disney does, but then say that the fans have...

They don't owe anyone anything. If you say they do, that proves my point.

No one has even hinted at this nor suggested it. This doesn't mean we can't chat about what we like or don't like.

I continue to believe the Disney fan community is spoiled.

We get to discuss about what we think about a fun themepark? Yeah, it's great we have the option to be spoiled in that manner. Aren't you glad you have the privilege to be spoiled with us?

[Skaterfreakboi2]

So which is it then?

Come on now. Is it that hard to understand?
Its no surprise Disney wasn't happy with what the outcome was. I never said that wasn't true. But that doesn't mean fans should feel the need to play backseat Imagineer, resent the park, call element's of the park trashy (as a general non specific example)...etc. I prefer Disneyland over DCA as much as anyone. But I also enjoyed what the park had to offer. I guess I'm more laid back than most people. I enjoy what's put in front of me rather than worry about a fan opinion on what standards are or should be.

No one has even hinted at this nor suggested it. This doesn't mean we can't chat about what we like or don't like.

Nobody might have hinted or suggested it, but that's how comment's like "Good riddance, tear it down" come across. At least to me.

I think the current entrance looks fine, but that doesn't mean I won't love or enjoy the new entrance more once its ready.

[MoonRakerSCM]

Come on now. Is it that hard to understand?

Actually it is, you said only Disney determines Disney standards, but then admitted that Disney is altering the park because the fans nagged at them.

But that doesn't mean fans should feel the need to play backseat Imagineer, resent the park, call element's of the park trashy (as a general non specific example)...etc.

No one feels the need, but partake in opinionated conversations. Some people see things in DCA as trashy, it's an opinion, that's that. Thing is, Disney must agree to some point as they are purposefully adjusting the park to fix what is regarded as trashy...

Being that the company itself that we're here for is changing these things shouldn't they be part of the conversations on a message board?

I guess I'm more laid back than most people. I enjoy what's put in front of me rather than worry about a fan opinion on what standards are or should be.

I'm pretty layed back and I enjoy what's in front of me and discussing it online, so, good stuff eh?

Nobody might have hinted or suggested it, but that's how comment's like "Good riddance, tear it down" come across. At least to me.

Making statements about disliking something and 'good riddance' are completely different and unrelated to saying 'Disney owes us'...

I think the current entrance looks fine, but that doesn't mean I won't love or enjoy the new entrance more once its ready.

I think the current entrance needs help, but that doesn't mean I won't love or enjoy the new entrance more once its ready.

[1FoolishMortal]

If fans didn't nitpick, there wouldn't be discussion boards (Disney or otherwise....this goes for ALL online communities).

[MoonRakerSCM]

Also, as I've said, in particular, this situation warrants some good amount of negative input and talk, as the entire redo of DCA is Disney realizing they didn't do it right the first time and that they are now fixing it.