You people are crazy to think of adding a volcano ride in disneys california adventure. Give me a freakin' break. Just because theres 21 unheard of holes in the ground somewhere in some national park doesntv mean that volcanoes are icons of california. I even cringe every time I hear somebody say that they are building a monster's Inc. ride because thats pushing it also. Even though it would be really cool, I can only imagine how ugly and out of place the outside of that building will be.
I really like the PP section of the park because it reminds me of santa cruz beach boardwalk, and the beach culture of california. The area between ariels grotto and the jumpin jellyfish shouldnt be touched (except for the boat thing) and all of route 66 should be ripped out to make room for a quiet little fishing village full of shops and resteraunts. I also wanna see that giant burger gone, and the huge billboard next to it. This section could transform the ugly peice of crap that nobody wants to look at into a beautiful little san diego/ monterey waterfront section on the parade rout. It will also make the PP section more relaxed.
I think the park needs a san fransisco section in the triton parking lot, with a chinatown section branching off on the side thats rich in detail like the busy little streets in new orleans square. In san fransisco they need an escape from alcatraz dark ride or thrill ride, and somewhere in the park they need an earthquake ride. I think though if they were to add a california gold rush expedition POTC style ride, it would fit best across from grizzly, but that would cause the removal of the recreation area. I think it would be cool to have a lushly landscaped fontierland kinda section over there.
I hope they send some more grizzly animatronics to grizzly when they build the rapids ride in the canada section of epcot in the near future.
Other additions to the park could be a train called the union pacific railway or sumthin like that cuz of the railroad that connected california and missouri and brought over miners. They could have various scenes along the trainride of life-size lifeless animatronics constructing the railroads and goldrush stuff. The train could stop behind the current route 66, or near sourin. How it gets around the park and back over to the area behind tower is up to whoever actually designs it. This railroad would stop people from saying that this park lacks an in-park transportation system that people enjoy at other disney parks.
They could also move autopia over to the big empty area behind the current route 66 and themed around highways and all that crap. This would free up space in tl at dl for a sub. ride, discovery mountain attraction, or some other E-ticket.
The water in pp needs a belagio-style water show with light affects to and a floating shiny sun centerpiece that could spin with pyrotechnics flying out of it, and fountainds shooting away from it.
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07-21-2004 07:14 PM #61
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07-21-2004 07:53 PM #62
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I agree i think they can do better
Originally Posted by rcman2001
I think that would do good if they have an dark ride like maybe nemo u know fishing and all
Originally Posted by rcman2001
At Knotts they have a gold rush thing where u dig for gold what you guys think about that?ok
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07-21-2004 07:54 PM #63
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And a Six Flags park toooooooo..... Leave generic amusemetn to them.
Originally Posted by rcman2001
Yeah. More shops and restaurants.... THAT's what this park needs.....
Originally Posted by rcman2001
Becuase the current san fran area is SUCH a draw!!!!
Originally Posted by rcman2001
But you wouldn't be able to see them with the high raft sides, and then there is the spinning thing.
Originally Posted by rcman2001
Over done.
Originally Posted by rcman2001
Your suggestions seem to me like the EXACT opposite of what is needed to transform this snoozer of an under-themed, generic amusement park into an awesome Disney theme park. You're stuck inside the box of doom that got them into the current attendance issues.
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07-21-2004 07:55 PM #64
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It is pan for gold.... snooze.
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Boring.
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07-21-2004 09:16 PM #66
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Wrongway, what do you mean my ideas are opposite of what is needed? What do you suggest they do?
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I like ur ideas,I think a expansion of the San Fran idea would be great,I think a historical 1800s San Fran would be a graet addition to DCA,I would take out the current San Fran area and just expand the Grizzly/Gold Rush theming to that part then use the timon lot for a 1800s San Fran area.I think the CA theme can be really amazing if they just use a little imagination.
Originally Posted by rcman2001
I think some peope have to accept the fact that the park is always gonna be themed to CA,so I think Disney should make the best of the concept.California is a very broad state,it has just about every geographical enviroment you can imagine,snowcapped mountains,desert,beaches,etc....there is a tremendous amount of potential there.
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07-22-2004 07:13 AM #68
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"You people are crazy to think of adding a volcano ride in disneys california adventure. Give me a freakin' break. Just because theres 21 unheard of holes in the ground somewhere in some national park doesntv mean that volcanoes are icons of california."
They are not icons. Never were. Neither are a Airfield and a Boardwalk.
So you think Chinatowns are icons of California? Strange, they are in every major city including all of China.
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07-22-2004 07:40 AM #69
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"(Wave Swing, Zephyr, Mad Mouse, Jelly Fish, boomer, sun wheel?)."
You mean Orange Stinger, Moholland Madness, Jumpin' Jellyfish, Maliboomer, and Sun Wheel, right?
"So, first year is 2006. Personally, I'd like to see:
2006: Finish up HPB including retheme of SSL($20 million) and Hollywood and Dine ($10 million) and Monsters Inc suspended dark ride for where Millionaire is ($45 million).
2007-2008: $150 million new land for Wharf and west half of Timon including a pirates/mansion style E-ticket
2008-2009: $150 million expansion of Bugs land into part of East half of Timon including a C-Ticket (mr toad style) dark ride, kiddy-coaster, improved train, and adult coaster.
2010-2011: replacement of Route 66 with new land including another pirates/mansion type E-Ticket and other rides
On the 10th birthday, announce that by the time it is a teen, it will have a new name.
2012: $75 million retheme of pier
2013: retheme entrance plaza
2014: retheme cementdor flats and GRR
2015-2016: One final thrill E-Ticket in the back corner of Timon."
This is so unrealistic. You want everything to be rethemed in California Adventure. Then, you would add tons of things to it. Sure, this would be okay, and your ideas are great, but if you ran Disney, this park wouldn't do very well.
Rcman2001: "Other additions to the park could be a train called the union pacific railway or sumthin like that"
Wrong Way: "Over done."
You are telling Rcman2001 that his idea is overdone, while your ideas, stated above, are totally and completely overdone!?
Rcman2001: "I really like the PP section of the park because it reminds me of santa cruz beach boardwalk"
Wrong Way: "And a Six Flags park toooooooo..... Leave generic amusemetn to them."
You obviously can't pick out the difference between a Six Flags park and California Adventure, right? Well, that is because you must not understand California Adventure's themes. If you think Paradise Pier is exactly like Six Flags, then you just don't understand the theme of Paradise Pier.
Paradise Pier is suppose to be themed to a boardwalk-pier of the early 1900's. And, yes, IT IS A BIG ICON of California. Disney actually recreated this type of California environment very well.
The waves smashing up against the rocks of the California Screamin's launch platform are very dramatic and realistic.California Screamin is made to look like an old wooden rollercoaster, while at the same time it delivers modern state-of-the-art thrills, such as a LIM launch. The music, too, is a great touch: it mixes beach-fun type songs and it makes it sound like old pier music. The woodwork on the entrance sign of Paradise Pier looks very similar to what was used in the early 1900's. California Screamin's entrance sign resembles the sign of one of one of the world's best classic wooden coasters: The Grand National at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. The Golden Zephyr is a very good recreation of old rides of its type. The lights above you on the walkway are little spheres that hang from strings... very similar to those used in old piers. Even the Sun Wheel is an elaborate replica of the Wonder Wheel at Coney Island. From the beautiful lights at night to the great ride- recreations, Paradise Pier is very well-done, and not exactly generic. It represents generic amusement parks that were made a century ago, but since it is trying to bring those back to life, it is following a theme, a goal. Paradise Pier is not just suppose to be a bunch of cheap carnival rides. It is suppose to be a replica of the old California Piers.
Actually, California Adventure has many little details, but someone who dislikes the park probably didn't spot them
I do agree that DCA is not as good as the other Disney parks, and it is lacking greatly, but it is definitely not a generic amusement park. Next time you go, stop, smell the roses, and just have fun!
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07-22-2004 07:43 AM #70
Re: DCA's 5 year plan?
They are not icons. Never were. Neither are a Airfield and a Boardwalk.
I don't know about an airfield being an icon, but a boardwalk definately is.
*Sigh* There ya'll go making me post at 7:30 in the morning...RUEHL No. 925, Greenwich St., New York, NY
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