Smoking in the Park

[Jspider]

Thanks for the quote, MaxDad, but is that a study or is it just someone trying to further an anti-smoking agenda? I mean, they give the numbers, but do they refer to where they got the numbers? That "3,000 nonsmoking Americans die" number is thrown out quite often and refers to a single study by the California EPA and the USA EPA that has been since discredited numerous times.

EDIT:
The "3,000 americans die each year..." report was an early 1990s EPA report that was lambasted in 1998 by a US Federal court. The judge in the case found the report to be negligent and that it, "demonstrated no link between second hand smoke and lung cancer" and that the "...EPA cherry picked it's data" and "deviated from acceptable scientific procedure to ensure a preordained outcome."

FYI- The EPA also did the same thing at around the same time with a study on recycling that has been plaguing our nation's economy, productivity and environment ever since, but that is a whole different story.

The information on this study and the case in which the EPA was found negligent can be found here:

http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=shs

either way Wally I dissagree

praticulary in situations were once the smoke is gone there is no reaction. people have reactions to all kinds of things some of the posters here seem to be implying that peoples "cough" or "alergic reaction" is due to something else in all liklyhood it isn't people can be allergic to all kinds of things.

also I think there is a deffinate connection. check out a house that someones smoked in there is a deffinate tar buildup (my family runs appartments when people break the rules I've seen appartments turn a pretty bad yellow) you can also get a great illustartion from a computer, since computers circulate almost all the air in a room through themselves you tend to get the most buildup inside of em and computers have diffnatly recieved a good amount of tar buildup from being in a room were somebody smokes (I work with alot of network admins and have seen proof) I would say from all of that there is a pretty good liklyhood that people could also breath that in (and we already know that there are problems with smoking directly) if you want to argue that it's not as bad as smoking directly or sitting in the smoke of a largue fire then that's another story


moving back to the topic of theme parks I think Disney manages this as best as they possibly can

they keep smokers out of the way of other people and allow them a nice location to saftly do their thing and be on with life. I have not heard much about people being poked at for being in a smoking area or that they're all off by themselves and miserable (heck I hardly notice this at all in the parks but then again I'm not an APer)

[Lindemann]

I've had to open up a smoker's computer to do maintenance and there was tar everywhere. Covering the mother board, clogging the fans... Ugh, it was disgusting

[cardboardroom]

You may think that second hand smoking is bad for your health. You may think that it smells bad or is rude. You may even think that it makes you cough or that you are allergic to it. But the truth is it does none of these, and no one can even come close to proving it does even though anti-smoking advocates have tried hundreds of times to do so.

I think secondhand smoke is bad for your health. I think it smells bad. It does make me cough. After living with my grandfather for three years, I developed a cough that I am afraid I am always going to have. It does make me and with no doubt, others, sick. What proof is there that it isn't bad for your health? I think the whole "secondhand smoke is okay" is a whole pile of crap. Try living with someone who smokes all day long, then we'll see how that theory works out, because I can tell that that whole "secondhand smoke is okay" thing was started by the tobacco industry. I think it's sad that people would rather endanger themselves and others instead of trying to quit. It may be hard to quit, but they have GOT to try to quit.

[disneydan]

If I see someone smoking outside of a designated area, I rat on them every time.

[disney rocker]

Drug free is the way to be.

Be cool, stay in school.

Be even cooler, dont smoke in Disneyland.

Be super cool, dont smoke at all.

[MattO]

I don't understand all of the anti-smoking sentiment. Why are people freaking out about tobacco at Disneyland when they inhale unabated gasoline fumes on the Autopia? How about the Diesel smoke from the train?

Get a life and leave us smokers alone!

[cardboardroom]

^ Because Autopia fumes aren't nearly as bad as they were before 2000, and the steam train gives off steam, not smoke. Steam is condensed water.

[MagicWDI]

^ Because Autopia fumes aren't nearly as bad as they were before 2000, and the steam train gives off steam, not smoke. Steam is condensed water.

Steam trains use a broiler to heat up the water to produce the steam. A very heated fire fueled by coil is needed to bring the water to a steam to create the pressure needed to drive the shafts. Due to the broiler there is more than just steam that is emitted from a steam engine locomotive.

[MattO]

Steam trains use a broiler to heat up the water to produce the steam. A very heated fire fueled by coil is needed to bring the water to a steam to create the pressure needed to drive the shafts. Due to the broiler there is more than just steam that is emitted from a steam engine locomotive.

Broiler? Isn't that what Burger King uses?

[jonvn]

Steam trains use a broiler to heat up the water to produce the steam.

Do they cook chickens with it too?