New name for DCA....D-C-A

[WrongWay]

How about changing the name of "Disney's Californis Adventure", to simply.... D-C-A?

I love it.

[Homer]

? I found it to be quite an adventure when I visited 2 days ago. In fact, I like it much more than Disneyland.

[jonvn]

The park is fine, has been fine, and will continue to grow and change over the years.

Same as all their other parks. And, in fact, all theme parks. If they want to keep their customer base.

People should just be happy the park is there at all. There was a good chance that there never was going to be one.

[WrongWay]

The reason many of us focus on the changes is that they signify a MAJOR shift in the park's theme/direction. Where there was once "realistic but ugly", there is now stylized, imaginative and pretty.

I and many others, consider to be slow but steady progress in moving this park from grade "D" toward grade "A". From mundane relaity toward imaginative fantasy.

Most of us know that magic is simply actization of the imagination.

[jonvn]

I think it's great that the park changes and grows, and I look forward to it doing that.

That is one of the things that is fun about these places, to see what's going to be coming up and what is new. They've been making changes to their parks since day one, but somehow when the exact same thing is done to DCA that has been done to all their other parks, it somehow takes on some new sinister cast that never was there before.

Magic is simply actization of the imagination

My imagination is quite active, and does not require a certain set of specific things to engage it. That means that I can enjoy all kinds of offerings in Disney theme parks, not just the one single kind..

The variety that they offer is what gives them their broad appeal, and what makes the parks interesting.

[doppio]

There was a good chance that there never was going to be one.

I'd rather have nothing than a half baked project. What a waste of valuable land.
Too bad Disney didn't go with the more ambitious project for Long Beach.

[jonvn]

I'd rather have nothing than a half baked project.

That is almost the same sentiment I have about re-doing the entry plaza. Do it right, or leave it alone.

Thing is that getting that park there was just a major hurdle, and now there is the opportunity to build on that, and keep going.

I think the place is much better off now than before when it was just the one park, and it was really rather important to do it, too, for the original park by itself may not have survived long term without it.

I don't think the Long Beach project would have ever gotten off the ground.

[WorldEpcot]

With the addition of Bugs, ToT, Monsters, Aladdin, Crush, etc, it is now a C.

I give it a C+, but definately a B- or B for effort. While I know me saying this might attract a certain crowd, I'm serious. With all you listed, it's obvious the management knows the problems of DCA, and they're trying to fix it. So what if it isn't going to happen overnight, as some people want, but at least it's happening.

[WrongWay]

I don't like what?

The change in direction from mundane reality to cartoonized and/or exotic fantasy.

I didn't say anything was ruined.

If you insist on making comments about me, which you seem to have a need to do, at least try to make them at least somewhat close to reality.

If I had the time, I'd pull up dozens of quotes by you that you don't like the direction the parks are going.

My imagination is quite active, and does not require a certain set of specific things to engage it, thank you. That means that I can enjoy all kinds of offerings in Disney theme parks, not just the one single kind you insist that they offer. It is unfortunate that you appear to not be able to enjoy, or let others enjoy, those parts of Disney theme parks that do not fall into your narrow band of what is acceptable or not. And the odd thing is, most of what they offer simply does not fall into your narrow categorization.

I too enjoy all kinds.

My "narrow" criteria is not narrow. I enjoy just about anything that isn't generic amusement park or stuff I could easily see just about anywhere, but don't bother too becuase it just isn't that interesting. I don't like intentionly run down and ugly. I don't like plain, odinary, unadorned, everyday, out-of-the-box.

As for not letting others enjoy it.... I'm discussing the park on a fan board. It isn't like I'm stranding at the front gate beating up anyone that tries to enter.

Back in the day, you were convinced that all of DCA's problems could be explained as "an online conspiracy". That the park was great, and guests were just seeing flaws because the evil online community that hates Pressler and Eisner was telling the sheep that are Disney fans that there were flaws.

Hog wash.

The problem with the park is not the rain. The problem is not the marketing. The problem is not the online conspiracy telling mindless zombies to dislike the park.

The park has flaws, and those flaws are inherant in it's unimaginative, here and now, reality theme. The problem is the theme that shows people a bunch of stuff they could easily see, but no one bothers 'cause the stuff just sucks. Asphault with steel buildings. Cement slab with steel buildings that are supposed to look faded and unkept. Food court and product commercials styled to look run down and unkept. A coaster-themed-coaster themed to be a generic amusement park.

Let us not forget the farm, where you could have your imagination stilulated by watching the plants grow... NOT!!!!

A vinyard where you could have your imagination stimulated by tasting putrid grape juice at $5 a glass.



I rejoice in all the changes that have been made since opening because they are all small steps in moving away from the "here and now" reality theme that is the root cause of all of the parks problems. They are the footprints of a mass migration that is occuring.... slowly, sure.... but happening all the same.

[jonvn]

The change in direction from mundane reality to cartoonized and/or exotic fantasy.

Since A) it wasn't mundane reality, and B) being cartoonized is not the same as exotic fantasy, then your statement is false on several points.

Why don't you simply discuss the facts, instead of making up stuff that isn't true?

My "narrow" criteria is not narrow.

If I had the time, I could pull up dozens of quotes by you that say otherwise.

Back in the day, you were convinced that all of DCA's problems could be explained as "an online conspiracy".

Another false statement, and I'm getting quite tired of these personal attacks by you. What's the matter, can't argue your point of view without resorting to personal comments? Is your opinion that weak? It must be, and it's easy to see why: You have not clue one as to what Disney parks are about, or what they contain.

Go watch a cartoon. That'll make you happy.