New MiceAge Article 7/24

[Nemo88]

If my memory serves me correct, Disney has never been very fast at building...well at building anything in their parks. Who Wants To Be A Millionaire - Play It was the quickest built Disney attraction I have seen in quite possibly my entire life. After all, it's just a building with a set in it.

I dunno about you but when a company takes longer to build something it feels more legit and safer...there was a new parking structure built at my work and it was built incrediblly fast and everyone was like "I hope they built it right"...the fact Disney takes that extra month or 2 in a wierd way sort of gives me a sense that its being done RIGHT...if a cmpany can whip up a E ticket in 6 months I find its structural stablity suspicious...but thats just me.

[Nemo88]

Okay, Chris, you know what? The Mummy's going to be to coasters what Spider Man was to dark rides. Okay? Okay?

Fab

good,Universal needs a real ride...the 3D films are getting tired.

[Nemo88]

"And in the Theme Park business, it seems like a year is about the average project time, for some reason, Disney takes longer than the other companies.
Shrek 4-D took less than a year in construction. The facility closed on Labor Day, and reopened shortly before Memorial Day."

Im not so sure that building a ride as fast as you can is the smartest or safest thing to do....Tower of Terror will be completed long before its spring 2004 opening but Disney does months and months of testing....how much testing can they do for Mummy being they just started it and it opens in less then a year?....doesnt really make me feel all too secure bout the safety of the ride

[YellowMan]

if a cmpany can whip up a E ticket in 6 months I find its structural stablity suspicious...but thats just me.

And since you're obviously a structural engineer, I agree with you. :rolleyes: Just because Six Flags puts up a coaster in a month, says nothing about it's safety. Theme Parks in California by law are made to go through so much testing it's not even funny (not that you'd find any testing funny (unless it was funhouse testing...with dogs....that would be funny)). While the TOT may be going up at the speed of an ant walking backwards up a 60 mile hill, The Mummy ride doesn't rise and fall in an elevator shaft at an alarming rate of speed, automatically reducing it's testing on that end.

[Marcie]

Darkbeer, if you actually knew anything about how the financial structure works within the company you would know that a project that is completed within a month or two after the end of a fiscal year will have money deferred or carried over into the new fiscal year to finish the project. The Space project will not be floated over 3 fiscal years to fund.

The timeline was extended due to a need for a longer work schedule once the crews got into the building and discovered the full scope of the project.

I think people get confused about the scale of this project in demolition of the existing interior of the facility and then redoing all of the foundation work to support the new internal structure and track. The load station is completely getting redone and queue as well.

This is by no means a small project. And the fact that the crew has to work within the existing footprint of the building without tyring to disturb the everyday life of the other attractions and facilities in Tomorrowland makes the work that much more complicated. And the footprint around the backside of the building isn't big by any measure, so the tight space makes the demolition and construction that much more challenging.

I just love armchair engineers and Imagineers.

[Whos Dat]

if you have only three in operations, can't get new one's and are using the 4th for spare parts, it only makes sense to reduce the wear and tear on the aging fleet you have. It's a simple preventive maintenance technique used everywhere in the world. It would be nice to have new, but if the money isn't there, I give the facilities guys credit for being creative in how they can keep the things running.

haha that last line about the facilities guys having creativity. Ask anyone who works the Monorail. The only thing holding that thing together is DUCT TAPE. Somethings wrong with the monorail, get the duct tape..... (dont take that literal)

[Nemo88]

Darkbeer, if you actually knew anything about how the financial structure works within the company you would know that a project that is completed within a month or two after the end of a fiscal year will have money deferred or carried over into the new fiscal year to finish the project. The Space project will not be floated over 3 fiscal years to fund.

The timeline was extended due to a need for a longer work schedule once the crews got into the building and discovered the full scope of the project.

I think people get confused about the scale of this project in demolition of the existing interior of the facility and then redoing all of the foundation work to support the new internal structure and track. The load station is completely getting redone and queue as well.

This is by no means a small project. And the fact that the crew has to work within the existing footprint of the building without tyring to disturb the everyday life of the other attractions and facilities in Tomorrowland makes the work that much more complicated. And the footprint around the backside of the building isn't big by any measure, so the tight space makes the demolition and construction that much more challenging.

I just love armchair engineers and Imagineers.

Space Mnt is a huge project,its bascially rebuilding the entire ride from scratch...we are getting a all new Space Mnt,nothing from the old versian will be in this new one....that takes a while to do..

[Nemo88]

And since you're obviously a structural engineer, I agree with you. :rolleyes: Just because Six Flags puts up a coaster in a month, says nothing about it's safety. Theme Parks in California by law are made to go through so much testing it's not even funny (not that you'd find any testing funny (unless it was funhouse testing...with dogs....that would be funny)). While the TOT may be going up at the speed of an ant walking backwards up a 60 mile hill, The Mummy ride doesn't rise and fall in an elevator shaft at an alarming rate of speed, automatically reducing it's testing on that end.

Six Flags puts up coasters inna month and look how many ppl die at Six Flags a year...every other month you here of another Six Flags death or injury....Id rather a company take its time and build the thing right then rush into it just to get it done by a certain date to help thier bottom line/attendance...but hey I guess thats just me...if you like sub-standard quality then go to Universal and Six Flags,Ill stick to my Disney parks =)

[Whos Dat]

Six Flags puts up coasters inna month and look how many ppl die at Six Flags a year...every other month you here of another Six Flags death or injury....Id rather a company take its time and build the thing right then rush into it just to get it done by a certain date to help thier bottom line/attendance...but hey I guess thats just me...if you like sub-standard quality then go to Universal and Six Flags,Ill stick to my Disney parks =)

HEY HEY HEY, please, you also did not take into account how these deaths occured? You state there are more deaths, which are true. But also, there is the fact that employees there are horrible at doing there job and you must also put into the fact the uncontrolable variables, like for instance the different people that go to SIX flags then Disney. Im sure if we looked into these deaths, some would me employee's negligance or possibly peoples fault.

[Briguy1314]

Six Flags puts up coasters inna month and look how many ppl die at Six Flags a year...every other month you here of another Six Flags death or injury....Id rather a company take its time and build the thing right then rush into it just to get it done by a certain date to help thier bottom line/attendance...but hey I guess thats just me...if you like sub-standard quality then go to Universal and Six Flags,Ill stick to my Disney parks =)

that has almost absolutely nothing to do with the safety of the rides. A very high percentage of deaths occur from rider or operator error, and not mechanical error.
Rides built "fast" are just as safe as rides that take 10 years to build.

and those numbers are no where near considered "high". the odds of being injured on a ride are so high, while i dont claim to know the exact figures, im sure they are much higher than being injured while riding in a car.