Disney urged to consider lower capacity at HK park...

[jbradway]

It's a DCA type bad if you build a ho-hum park that has low attendence. But is it also bad if you build a park with too few rides? Even though the anticipated attendence is great enough that some are suggesting that they limit how many people are let into the place. I understand the DCA bad, but help me understand why HKDL is in trouble. It sounds like HKDL has plans already to increase their attractions and they have people interested in going there. So where is the problem?

[TDLFAN]

TP2000,please link to me to the articles where it said the guests were "underwelmed" and displeased with "lack of rides"...I dont ever remember any article stating that,you got the link still?

every article I read stated how they packed the park with too many people,...I dont remember seeing anyting about people being underwelmed and complaining about a lack of rides.

The article here: http://www.southchinamorningpost.com/ top stories do mantion that but you have to subscribe to read...

[Goin2Disneyland]

I can't find the link, but the LA Times did a big article on the park, and featured little favorable guest response.

[jonvn]

Um, the red color represents the Han Chinese race, bud. No matter what they want to propagandize, that's what it is. They say the red represents the communist revolution, but it's a historic color for China, and it appears on the Republic of China's flag from 1912-1928, representing the Chinese people.

Do you actually have any idea as to what is going on with China these days?

[TP2000]

TP2000,please link to me to the articles where it said the guests were "underwelmed" and displeased with "lack of rides"...I dont ever remember any article stating that,you got the link still?

every article I read stated how they packed the park with too many people,...I dont remember seeing anyting about people being underwelmed and complaining about a lack of rides.

This very thread begins with one of those news stories. One of the quotes from a HKDL paying customer this past weekend was;

"I won't go again in the short-term unless it's free."

But here's some other recent info regarding customer service problems from last weekend Nemo88---

In a news story from an official Chinese news service, the governments Financial Secretary, Henry Tang, addressed the growing concerns about the problems at the Park by saying to the media; "We deeply realize that visitors were upset about having to wait for such a long time." The full story can be found here
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_3449216.htm

Forbes, the popular American economic news weekly, also has just published a story about the problems at the Park last weekend. A choice quote from Forbes that was fresh in my mind when I posted the reply Nemo88 is referring to is; "Disneyland here said it is considering lowering its visitor capacity after nearly 30,000 people -- the maximum number of people the park accommodates -- caused chaotic scenes. About 29,000 guests flocked to the theme park on a rainy Sunday when it held a charity day. But many complained of long queues outside the gate and a half-hour wait to get in as security checks were carried out on bags.

Some also complained of up to three-hour waits for rides and meals.

A scuffle broke out when a man was accused of jumping the queue and many frustrated visitors left hours before the fireworks finale, the South China Morning Post reported."

The Forbes article can be found here; http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/...fx2206098.html

This is all coming from one single day when they let in close to their max capacity of 30,000. The problem is that Disney has already pre-sold 30,000 tickets per day for upcoming weekends and Holidays in the Autumn months ahead. How do they add the capacity of the 3 or 4 E Ticket rides the Park needs in just a matter of days and weeks?

[jonvn]

Long lines at a disney theme park. Go figure.

[TDLFAN]

Long lines at a disney theme park. Go figure.

Yes...that's the result of fastpass.

[daveyjones]

Um, the red color represents the Han Chinese race, bud. No matter what they want to propagandize, that's what it is. They say the red represents the communist revolution, but it's a historic color for China, and it appears on the Republic of China's flag from 1912-1928, representing the Chinese people.

Do you actually have any idea as to what is going on with China these days?

Here's a link talking about what's happenning in china these days. http://slate.msn.com/id/2117169/ China calls itself a dictatorial republic ruled by the communist party. Which is basicly communism in "PC" clothing. And BTW I knew that about the flag I was trying to make a point.

[tcsnwhite]

While HKDisneyland has its problems, part of me does feel that there is a bias or slant in the media, and it has been building with HKDisneyland's few (but overly exagerated) problems that started in the media before previews really happened.

The media loves negative headlines, it is what gets people interested. Positive news is few and far between out there for a reason. And no matter how nice Disney treats the media at all the press events and whatnot, they are always going to rip apart a corporation as huge and notorious as Disney.

HKDisneyland will have a tough few years, if not more, though I believe the people will show up regardless. Most Disney parks start out pretty rocky to begin with, it takes time to fine tune things (big and small), even though you have these parks all over the world. Each country and culture it is built in is different.

Not only was there too few attractions (and live shows) built and planned for the first few years, but I don't really think Disney management expected such a response from the Chinese in how truly excited they were to get their own Disneyland. The buzz was big for the Chinese people from the beginning, and now management and Honk Kong govt. realize just how many out there truly want to go to their own country's Disneyland park. That's huge. the park on the other hand is not. Literally.

[jonvn]

Here's a link talking about what's happenning in china these days.

Thanks for the link. The title of the article is "Can China Have Capitalism Without Democracy?" They are a capitalist country.

We also call ourselves capitalists, but we're not. The word "communism" in China is chiefly an affectation at this point. Much like "capitalism" is here.

And BTW I knew that about the flag I was trying to make a point.

Then your point was easily refuted and therefore was not very good.