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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    Here's a list of possible Kerry Vice President candidates from Newsweek. Bill Clinton isn't on the list, which means NO PUNDIT is seriously thinking about him.

    JOHN EDWARDS The North Carolina senator
    DICK GEPHARDT The Missouri congressman
    BOB GRAHAM The Florida senator
    BILL RICHARDSON The governor of New Mexico
    EVAN BAYH The senator from Indiana
    BOB KERREY The former Nebraska senator and governor
    SAM NUNN The former Georgia senator
    HILLARY CLINTON: The New York senator

    There you go.

    HILLARY CLINTON:
    The New York senator is a hit in the Senate and commands wide allegiance among Democrats.
    Advantages: Large parts of the party would do anything to get her on the ticket and she might increase turnout in the Democratic base, especially among women.

    Disadvantages:She brings no votes that Kerry would not otherwise have and potentially alienates moderates and independents who want to put a little distance between this election and the Clinton years. New York is already in the bag for Democrats. Clinton would have to explain breaking her promise not to run.

    Other long shots: Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack and Arizona Sen. John McCain. Of course, choosing McCain could sew up the election for Kerry but McCain, a Republican, is unlikely to accept.

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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    kerry kerry that would be fun...
    maybe we could have kerry kerry- bush bush...
    i guess kerry(#1) could bow out to clinton 2 and she could run with clinton1...


    Id REALLY like to see Bush-Rice.... that would be unbeatable...
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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by BritneyRocks
    Kerry will be the 2nd black president

    Is Kerry part black? did i miss something?
    Kerry made a statement earlier to the effect that, Clinton was the first "black president" and he would be honored to be the second "black president". Very odd for him to say right before an election, but it didn't seem to hurt him at all I guess.
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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by CoasterNut
    Kerry made a statement earlier to the effect that, Clinton was the first "black president" and he would be honored to be the second "black president". Very odd for him to say right before an election, but it didn't seem to hurt him at all I guess.
    At least Bill Clinton waited until he opened his office in Harlem to say that...
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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocnative1964
    Bush won the count either way... also notice they only recounted the Gore precints, if they had counted them all who knows what the final tally would have been... also gores lawyers wanted to throw out all the millitary absentee votes...

    anything to win right???
    bush won the electoral college, Gore won the popular vote. which means more Americans voted for and wanted gore to be president, but the damn electoral college sscrewed it all up.

    and to the clinton being black thing, is he just an "honorable brutha" cause he lives in harlem? or does he actually have some amount of black in him?

    and to the other clinton thing, Hilary might be eligible to run for VP, but she has already said she wants to finish out her term as Senator. i believe her term ends in 2006, yeah senators have a 6 year term. so thatd be in the middle of the next presidents office. so i wonder what she'll do for those 2 years. if she runs for senator again, we may never see her in the white house, but then again if she didnt do anything political for those 2 years, she could drop outta the spotlight and people might forget about her for a while. unless of course she goes out and about and does stuff like when she was first lady. either way: HILARY FOR PRES IN 2008!!!



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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    Actually i think the Dems want her in 2012, (Only if Kerry gets elected). If Bush gets elected, she will run in 2008.

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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    Previously you mentioned how easy to read and understand the Constitution is, now you are saying that it depends on interpretation... which is it, easy for anyone to understand, or does it depend on the interpretation...
    Both. It's very short, and easy to understand. It's also open to interpetation. Interpretation of the law is the main function of the Court.

    you say that a PUBLISHED law professor from NYU (hardly a conservative enclave for higher learning) may be intreperting it one way...
    What I said is that if challenged, it would have to go to court. The court interprets the Constitution based on intent. The law school professor knows this. So should you, frankly.

    And what law school is your degree from??? and was it constitutional law??
    You don't need a law school degree to say the things I am saying. These are very basic concepts as to how our government works, not legal opinions.

    you have told me in post after post how the constitution means XYZ... actuall it can (and has been) interpreted different ways at different times...
    I have told you exactly what it says, specifically, I have told you what the Preamble was, which you feel is appropriate to a country like Cuba.

    Bush won the count either way...
    What count did he win "either way?"
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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonvn
    Where do you get this stuff? This is completely wrong.

    The Supreme Court got involved in a Florida case where the counting of votes was in question. By taking the action they did, they allowed the vote to stand, giving George Bush the electoral votes for the state.

    The Electoral College then met later and elected Bush to be the President, based on the results of the election in November.
    appointed, elected... sorry i meant the same thing... the vote of the elecrtol college is what put Bush in the white house... the Supreme court had nothing to do with that EC vote... The court saw the case of recounting in FL thats it...
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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by BritneyRocks
    bush won the electoral college, Gore won the popular vote. which means more Americans voted for and wanted gore to be president, but the damn electoral college sscrewed it all up.

    and to the clinton being black thing, is he just an "honorable brutha" cause he lives in harlem? or does he actually have some amount of black in him?

    and to the other clinton thing, Hilary might be eligible to run for VP, but she has already said she wants to finish out her term as Senator. i believe her term ends in 2006, yeah senators have a 6 year term. so thatd be in the middle of the next presidents office. so i wonder what she'll do for those 2 years. if she runs for senator again, we may never see her in the white house, but then again if she didnt do anything political for those 2 years, she could drop outta the spotlight and people might forget about her for a while. unless of course she goes out and about and does stuff like when she was first lady. either way: HILARY FOR PRES IN 2008!!!
    the EC is how we elect our President until that is changed thats it, the popular vote does not count... you are right... fact of life.. it didnt screw up anything... thats the law...

    many senators govoners etc will tell those that vote them in they will finish their term and many dont before running for higher office...

    bill clinton did it, G w Bush did also... so when hillary runs next for the senate with 2 years before the 08 election it would not stop her... nor would her previous statement stop her from taking a VP nod from kerry if offered...

    but she will only do either if she is very sure of winning...

    one thing for sure Hillary will not drop out of the spot light...
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    Re: Kerry's Running mate??? who should he pick?

    the vote of the elecrtol college is what put Bush in the white house... the Supreme court had nothing to do with that EC vote... The court saw the case of recounting in FL thats it...
    Uh...the vote in Florida determined how the vote in the electoral college would go. The Supreme Court decided how the election in Florida would turn out, so in turn, they decided what went on in the Electoral College.
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