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05-02-2008 12:06 PM #181
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05-02-2008 12:09 PM #182
McCain won't win Washington State, that's for sure. He kind of screwed the Boeing workers and union up here.
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05-02-2008 09:47 PM #183I Am the Yetians MI Lead Moderator
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I find it hysterical that so many Democrats are suddenly starting to distrust Hillary Clinton.
They're just now catching up to what so many bazillions of people realized from 1992-2000...the Billary Clintons are in it for the Billary Clintons. The behavior exhibited by Hillary in this election is not surprising or shocking...it's how she and her husband ran the White House for eight years. They have ALWAYS lied, ALWAYS crushed those who stood in their way. It's the Clinton thing.
But now that they're doing it to another Democrat, that whole party is finally realizing that these people are not honest. They never have been.Jaleel White does not approve.
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05-03-2008 05:41 PM #184
I guess they could just dismiss tailgate, white water gate, cattle gate, etc. as "vast Right Wing Conspiracy". But when she turns on a Dem.....
White Water Gate: A developer gives the Clintons a share of his development company without putting money in. Clinton works to get his development project zoned and approved. Then the whole project goes bust, investors lose everything, people go to jail... But, the Clintons hoed for wind fall evaporates. It seems that using political power for personal gain is only bad IF the scam actually works and you get rich. If the scam goes bust before you cash out, you get a pass on cronieism.
Cattle Gate: Tyson chicken wanted conscessions from the government to open more chicken processing plants. The govt won't go along. Then, Hillary decides to trade cattle futures. In a few months, she makes $100K. AND decides to never trade cattle futures again. OH, and she made the money using a trader that had been punished for doing fraud transactions in futures markets. He would make lots and lots of trades, and not record them into anyones account until AFTER they knew if they were winners or losers. Why would you do that? Launder payoffs. One person wants to pass money to another. They each give money to the trader. He makes sure one loses their money and the other makes money. AND, the CEO of Tyson was using the same broker at the same time Hillary was using him. AND the CEO of Tyson Chicken lost about $100K as Hillary earned $100K. Soon after Hillary earned the $100K trading cattle futures, and the CEO of Tyson lost that money, suddenly Clinton pushed through the regulation changes Tyson wanted.
Tail Gate: A state trooped went to a reporter and said that Bill had asked him to get him chicks. The reporter did some investigating, found some cooroberation, and published the story. Bill's response was to attack the women listed in the article, saying they were all vindictive beat cha's and nothing happened. This brought the women out of silence to defend themsleves. In fact, one accused Bill of Sexual Harassment.... which just a few years earlier, when the liberals were trying to keep Clarence Thomas off the SCotUS, was the WORST possible thing anyone could ever do, and accusations without any evidence was sufficient to prove guilt. Well, Pauls Jones files a sexual harassment suit against Clinton basedon INFINATELY more evidnace that Anita Hill had against Thomas (NONE!). Clinton uses every dirty trick to get the case fossed, including two trips to the SCotUS. 6 years later, when it seems tailgate was long forgotten, Clinton is forced to answer questions under oath..... AND HE LIES! He then gets impeached. For a.... Lawinski? NOOOOO!!!!!! For lying under oath in a sexual harassment lawsuit! You remember, the WORST possible thing a man can do to a woman that even the accusation of should BAN you from all public office.
"Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"? Well, the dress says otherwise regardless of what the definition of "is" is.
Not to mention Hillary booking lots and lots of hours for the Rose law firm, that did lots of business for the state, even though no one that worked there ever saw her actually show up for work.
They are as dirty of politicians as you get... but they are OUR dirty politicians so it is all good.
What do you get when you cross a dirty lawyer with a crooked politician?
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05-04-2008 11:55 AM #185
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05-04-2008 12:02 PM #186
The fact that she wants to have that stupid "gas tax holiday" that McCain suggested. That holiday would save each person 28 dollars (on average) over a 3 month time span. Its a joke,and its done to pander to voters. Obama is the only candidate with the guts to call it like it is,a GIMICK.
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05-04-2008 02:59 PM #187
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05-04-2008 04:02 PM #188
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05-06-2008 07:19 PM #189
Looks like Obama is close to wrapping this up,with Indiana too close to a call and a huge victory in North Carolina,can Republicrat Hillary Clinton convince the super delegates she still has a chance? certainly looks grim for her.
Obama 08 baby!!
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05-06-2008 09:13 PM #190
Lake County is coming on strong. Huge support for Obama. I hope this gets very close.
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