The Presidential Race 08

[Majikku]

Nemo,

The Hagee/Radical Priest and Rev. Wright comparisons are apples to oranges.

McCain isn't a long term member at either of those churches. Just because some loser supports you it shouldn't be a reflection of your character. To my knowledge McCain hasn't gone out of his way to support them.

This issue with Obama is that by having a long term membership at Rev. Wrights church he is supporting him.


All right back to hillbilly jokes

McCain went out of his way to get the Hagee endorsement,I can find you the link if youd like. He didnt distance himself from Hagee,he sought his endorsement.

When Farakhan endorsed Obama he denounced the endorsement,has McCain denounced the Hagee endorsement? nope.

[Chavez Ravine]

McCain went out of his way to get the Hagee endorsement,I can find you the link if youd like. He didnt distance himself from Hagee,he sought his endorsement.

When Farakhan endorsed Obama he denounced the endorsement,has McCain denounced the Hagee endorsement? nope.

I've seen the links and the news, but the fact remains that an endorsement is far different than mentor.

That's the point I'm making.

As an aside I think McCain is making a mistake thinking that Hagee speaks for the Christian Right. He rides an edge that i'd say most are uncomfortable with. I don't understand why he would pursue Hagee when there are far better pastors to seek endorcements. My guess is that smart pastors don't endorce candidates

Finally, here's McCain sort of admitting it was a mistake.

When asked in an exclusive "This Week" interview with George Stephanopoulos if it was "a mistake to solicit and accept his endorsement", McCain replied "oh, probably, sure."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...-admits-h.html

[Majikku]

Ok Chavez,so since you believe this Rev. Wright situation is such a big deal, what do you think will happen if Obama becomes president? do you think hes going to put all the White people in concentration camps or what? lol I mean,so he has a racist pastor? who cares! Obama is mixed,its pretty obvious Obama doesnt share those racist views,so its really a moot point.

Its something the Republicans will surely pounce on tho, since they cant run on thier horrendous record with the war and the economy.So instead we will see attacks about flag pins, pastors and how Obama salutes the flag. Its all pretty pety and makes it painfully obvious that the GOP has nothing else to run on.

President Obama,get used to it Chavez

[viigduckman]

Well it nice to see the only thing that has changed is your name Nemo.

[Majikku]

Well it nice to see the only thing that has changed is your name Nemo.

lol Hey man,its all about Obama.

But in all seriousness,the right wing attacks,and also the ones from Hillary against Obama have been pety. I mean honestly who cares if Obama wears a flag pin,thats just lame. These are the types of attacks that the GOP uses against Democrats constantly, Obama must hate America since he doesnt wear a pin,yet Bush can basically commit treason with lying to the country to go to war and its A-OK! lol Lets keep things real here,Im tired of these trivial things like Rev Wright,flag pins etc being injected into the debate,they are nothing more than distractions.

If your happy with the direction we are headed right now,then by all means vote another Republican in office, but I am not happy with how things are looking right now. Ill take my chances with Obama,you kno,the Muslim with the racist christian pastor lol

[Goin2Disneyland]

Okay. So how about some not-so-petty allegations?

Obama has no experience to speak of, other than having the distinction of being the most liberal state senator in Illinois, a voting record he continued in the US Senate. Though he claims to be a uniter and constantly babbles about so-called "change", Obama has not only been unable to unite his own party, but he is consistently out-of-touch with the average voting American as polls have indicated. His wife is a loose cannon who routinely spews venomous hatred about America and its people, all the while encouraging lower class Americans to stay where they are economically and not pursue higher incomes. His policies, as outlined on his website, are rife with words like "double funding". He plans to pursue costly and unworthy energy alternatives like ethanol, instead of actually using the oil we have to get us off our foreign dependence while we shift towards a different fuel system. He is willing to throw untold billions at the laughable topic of "climate change" (scientists just reported that the earth has entered a 15 year cooling cycle. The hubris we have to think we can honestly alter the earth's atmospheric course...it's ridiculous). He plans on taking all troops from Iraq in a quick 16 months. Yeah, that'll solve the problem. "Hey enemy! We're leaving! Ciao!" He thinks the federal government can enforce a law that would require illegals to learn English. Okay. His grand plan to save social security is to increase the amount of income you can be taxed on. Yay! More taxes! Punish the people who have gained the skills necessary to earn money and give their rightfully-owned cash to people who haven't gained the skills! That's the socialis...I mean American way! Got a loan you shouldn't have? That's okay, we'll tax the responsible people who didn't do that and make them pay for your irresponsibility. And he claims that the national debt is a huge problem and that he is all for fiscal discipline, yet all his other policies would exponentially increase the federal government's budget, not only creating more debt, but making our completely inept federal government even bigger, with more control over our lives.

So there you go. A policy argument that Barack Obama would be a HORRIBLE president.

[Majikku]

Obama has no experience to speak of, other than having the distinction of being the most liberal state senator in Illinois, a voting record he continued in the US Senate.

So what? if you judge how great a President will/should be by his experience,then George Herbert Walker Bush should have been the best President of all time,he had quite the resume going into the Presidency. Yet he was pretty much a hiccup in time.

He plans on taking all troops from Iraq in a quick 16 months.

sounds good to me! we shouldnt have been there to being with.

Yay! More taxes! Punish the people who have gained the skills necessary to earn money and give their rightfully-owned cash to people who haven't gained the skills! That's the socialis...I mean American way! Got a loan you shouldn't have? That's okay, we'll tax the responsible people who didn't do that and make them pay for your irresponsibility. And he claims that the national debt is a huge problem and that he is all for fiscal discipline, yet all his other policies would exponentially increase the federal government's budget, not only creating more debt, but making our completely inept federal government even bigger, with more control over our lives.

HAHAH

the size of government has grown more under this Republican administration than any other administration in US history. I have to go to work right now but Drudgereport just had an article on it,I will put the link up when I get home tonight.

This notion that Dems will increase the size of gov't is an old Republican smear tactic but if you actually LOOK at the past,youll see Republicans loove big government,.They love to tell women what they can and cant do with thier own bodies,Republicans loove to tell society who can and cant get married...dont be fooled,your good old boy Republicans love big Government too, they dont fight for power to get less of it.

[cinder]

Quite honestly, I'm appalled at him calling a reporter "sweetie". Another instance of a chauvinist pig.

[Mortimer]

Listen doll, it was an honest mistake. Now go iron my shirt.

[cinder]

I'll do something on your shirt.